What is the work of a middle-aged man? To improve himself and help those around him contribute to a fairer, more tolerant society.
Mark is a digital producer with a coaching mindset. Brendan is a home remodeler with plans to become a men’s health coach.
As men entering their second phase of life, they push each-other to be better and achieve more, without the hustle and grind mindset of the Internet bro.
They also do battle with music, writing original songs on the topic of the day.
Latest Episodes
Episode 80 of the Convergence podcast
Mark ends Undo and cracks his head open like a coconut. Brendan ends art therapy, dodgeball, and eating. and together they try to stop asking a lemonade stand for grap...

Get Better – The Extended Edition
Mark ran his first community singing group session, Brendan had a chat with his pasta/pastor, and we get to hear the full extended mix of Frank Turner's Get Better, by...

I am not a piece of Tupperware
Brendan is holding space and being held up by many hands. Mark is done with giving 120% and is ready to ut bak on some stuff (not this podcast, though).LinksDrop the D...

Things are not done or not done
Brendan returns to Darkenshrub, and Mark gets grumpy in London.

You're just being bolic
Mark is almost at a podcast conference. Brendan is juggling men's retreat options. And together they plot to save the world.
